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Opinion:- When Does Enough Become Enough fo Pastor Daniel M.? (By Selamawit Befekadu)
Opinion:-By Selamawit Befekadu
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The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of the writer. The writer Selamawit Befekadu can be reached selambefekadu@gmail.com
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Comment from: negatu [Visitor]
bemejemeria bacheru yehn asteyayet yesetut lemndenew egele ebalalhu belew semachewn yalgletsut?lemendenews sile akbabiw atebiya betekrestianat erso ende kale akebay yeminagerut.bebekule erso enante slezhi negar menew lebachehu eskiseber diresyekorekorachehu yanadedachhu?
yeh neger leyu leyu bota ethiopian chemero maletanew -bteleyayu agelgayoch yedereg aydelem wey.mendenew asdenakinetu.programun yemikafelew sew new yemiwosenew malete" yalbeselew "ena bsemen america yekfifil kelbet wist gebto yalzorebut band weym belela menged.asteyayetwo bemseretu teru timhert seche yehone tekit tekami tikomawoch alut ke zelefaw besteker.bterefe ene programu betam kebarekugna egzeabeheren kamesegenkubet andu new bel bene asteyayet altesastkum. bteley btley ebakachehu lewngelserchit yemidekmuten bezu agelgayochen yaferuten be akal saywkune be sbketachew btsefochchew megebew ke- enat betkrestiaynache gare leb yemiseber meneshaw egziyabeher yemaykebrebetn asteyayet mechare terf yalew aymeslegm.
ezh lay erso endestut mesale aynet agurazele menekakiya aymeslgm.bemenem melku aywedaderm.menalbat endemmimesleg befitunem tilachan yazelu demenawoch be semen americ sisema yehe addis aydelem.lenegeru ersom beprogramu tirunet ena misleyawi lehon endmichel yetgenezebu yimeslegnal. tadea lemindenew tawki agelgayochen gefgefa kemadreg tebabero yegziyabeher sira beagbabu bisera menalebet.yilek serw yegziyabehere new.lersu entewew ewnet kegziyabher kehone aykomemena. negergin bezu raey yelelachew yalteteru ,lagelglot malete new, erasachewn sim setew ytednekruten , engera felagiwochin egziyabher endibarekchewna kezih aynetu elef kemayil heywet endiwotu tselote new. menalbat yehe-new ersbers menekakesin yemetaw. bterefe bewnet geta yetrachew tiru yehiwot miskrent yalachew tekami besega maletenew giziyachewn lgeta setew wongelin lemadrese bebezu tniknek yaluten akibrote talak-new, egziyabher yibarkachew. bterefe misganaye le ethiocross yidres. Geta benegerhulu mihretun tsegawen yabzalen!
01/05/11 @ 02:44
Comment from: Melkam [Visitor]
01/06/11 @ 02:03
Comment from: Ermiyas [Visitor]
God Bless
01/06/11 @ 10:48
Comment from: Tazabi [Visitor]
Having said that, I also have questions for the local churches in the area.
1- Are all of them in good terms with each other?
2- Didn't we see churches over throwing their leaders?
I believe the transparency and accountability should start from the church leaders in the area.
01/07/11 @ 21:15
Comment from: Boez form Maryland [Visitor]
I admire your boldness to express what you have observed in our believers community in West Coast. Well, I ould encourage you to use your gifting of writing such as this to include scripture. It sounds that you have your home church to grow and and accountable to your leaders. I amsure your church is behind your concern and please encourage the believers around you to be active in their local church to support the cision of their our local church.
Blessings!
P.S. Mentioning names might not be helpful to the readers and can hinder the Gospel movement with in our people.
01/10/11 @ 13:41
Comment from: Anonymous [Visitor]
01/10/11 @ 17:19
Comment from: bnmar [Visitor]
Yes It is very saddening to see this among our Christian community.
Jesus thought the crowd and fed them. Nowadays ministers are teaching their crowd to feed them. Jesus washed the disciples’ feet. Our ministers demand their feet to be washed. We read for the Holy Book how our fathers died for Gospel. Now, today, our ministers are killing the very Gospel.
May God have mercy on us.
01/11/11 @ 01:21
Comment from: Boez form Maryland [Visitor]
"We don’t expect to be deceived on a Sunday morning in church or in some gatherings. But, even from the earliest gatherings of God’s people, there’s been the threat of false teachers.
Friends: We can be deeply religous and miss the "Sound doctrine" "Ewnetegna Temehert" part. So we need to be watchful, actively learning to grow continually..Non Stop!
For your reading Titus 1:10-16
I invite you to listen to a message under the series called "get it right" by Pastor Alistail Begg.
This message would help us to see and learn...if you are comfortable with english language this radio ministry is worth listening in North America. Abundant Grace to all who are participating.
01/11/11 @ 09:36
Comment from: Mulgeta [Visitor]
01/11/11 @ 22:25
Comment from: bnmar [Visitor]
First of all, I do not see anger in her writing but concerned. Her issue is not about herself but Cain's was. She is concerned about the bruised and abused House of God. We do not need to look for verses and twist them to fit our point.
01/12/11 @ 15:08
Comment from: Temesgen [Visitor]
01/13/11 @ 00:07
Comment from: tsegaye [Visitor]
01/13/11 @ 05:34
Comment from: yosef [Visitor]
01/13/11 @ 05:43
Comment from: Yosef [Visitor]
The scriptures clearly showed us that God himself design the church. God is the one who forms and perfectly design the church with authority. He gave us the law, the discipline and the direction to shape christian church. All were given throught gospel. “But now hath God set the memebers every one of them in the body, as it halth pleased him.: 1Cor 12;18. But Why did God give us all these if he didn’t wanted us to work with the church, why He cares, Why the gosep teach us all about church, why should we know how it is structured, why do we have to understand who does what and who does when…? I wonder, we as a believer, ask ourselves these questions. My question to all of you is if God didn’t wanted us to follow his perfectly designed church structure, why should He bother in the first place to design it as the way he did. Trust me, if we follow his way of doing, we will be more fruitfull
So How God structure the Church:
Jesus is the leader who joins and holds every part of the church’s body together. Underneath the head shepered, there is a sprictual leader where bible called them elders and pastors. Underneath sprictual leaders there are different ministries such as decos, youth and more. “And God halth set some in the church, first apostles, and etc…”1Cor 12:28. This is the ONLY and ONLY way to fight spiritual fight, to spread the gospel , to do the work of GOD. I am not saying that the church we have around us currently is in its perfection. But Holy Sprit is here to help us as a church to become unblemished. The problem might be the leader, or might be ourselves the believers who are unruly ones. But the THE STRUCTURE ITSELF IS NEVER THE PROBLEM CHURCH IS DESIGNED PERFECTLY FROM THE BEGING. So lets not mess up the perfectly designed structure.
WHY God cares so much about church?
The answer is because God wanted the church to be effective in every aspect of her goal and He is always wanted us to be diciplined so that we become more efficient and operative in spiritual prizefight. It is known that Church’s tasks are vast: Out-reaching to those outside of the church, reaching in to those inside of the church, and prasing and communicating with God. I sometimes wonder if we forget we needed a very well organized structure/design to achieve all thses responisiblities and make it an indiviudal duty to do all these. Clearly that is why God prefer to structure it himself as a well organized design rather than given us the work to design it ourselves. SO lets not mess up the STRUCTURE.
01/14/11 @ 19:37
Comment from: temesgen [Visitor]
Your argument doesn’t hold water, forget who Selamawite is. She may be woman or man, I don’t care. But the concern she raised is something that need to be addressed.
Since the people don’t go to the same church or go to American’s churches should NOT give Pastor Daniel and others to involve in such ungodly activity. If the Pastor or others who came with him have a respect to the Church of God, their first questions should be under which church the conference is organized… either the Ethiopian’s or American’s churches.
Conducting conference organized by individuals who do NOT have any affiliation with the church is ungodly and unacceptable. This s the work of God and every thing has to be channeled through CHURCH.
In the first place it is unethical and immoral to organize spiritual conference with out consulting the local churches, and it is sickening to see the “BIG” Pastor and Gospel singers involve in such activity. I don’t think so either Pastor Daniel or the Singers do know the individuals who organized the conference very well.
It would be good if the leaders of the Ethiopian Church addresses this before it is too and open doors for all ungodly activity among the believers.
God Bless.
01/14/11 @ 22:11
Comment from: Gremew [Visitor]
If my hand got cut off from my body, we no longer call it hand but we call it "beden". It is dead, no longer part of my body. The body only lives as long as it has head. And the head only works through his Body.
So if we want Jesus to involve in today's spiritual movement, we need to work or be part of the body- the Church.
To work as Body of Christ, we need to be part of the body at all time.
01/15/11 @ 11:30
Comment from: bnmar [Visitor]
I belong to one of the church in the area.
My church is among the churches who told their congregation not to attend Pr. Daniel’s first conference, but the church he canceled his meeting was not one of them. When Pr. Daniel cancel the church meeting after it was announced and went alone the people who some of them are disciplined by their churches because of their misconduct, we all were sadden. We were saddened, first, because his association with those people will not be helpful for him or for the God’s work in the area.
Second, it was posted on the websites that the churches were working with him, while no churches were involved or asked to be involved.
It was a headache for all the pastors in the area. Some of us, the members, challenged our pastors how they could be involved in this, knowing these people (the people Pr. Daniel is associated with). That is why some of the pastors publicly told their members their churches were not involved in organizing the conference and advised them not to attend it.
All churches are not happy when he did it for the second time. That is why not one of the pastors in the area attended or encouraged their members to attend the conference.
Most of us in the area felt the same way Selamawit felt. This is not a concern of one church member in the area. It is every one’s concern. Do not try to belittle the issue? It is not a cheap shot of one church member against Pr. Daniel. It is everyone’s concern in all those churches. For your information the members of this church whom you think Selamawit is belong, whom Pr. Daniel canceled his coming after was announced, were among the few who attend his conference.
Selamawit, didn't say she/he is from any church. You sound like you have something against the church you are talking about. If that is the case please go and try to solve your issue with these church leaders, But, please, do not try to use this legitimate concern of our sister to defamed this church’s reputation and to sow discord among these church members and Pr. Daniel.
01/16/11 @ 03:20
Comment from: lulo [Visitor]
i am not from the area. it is hard to me to understand what happen in there. is anyone able to address my question? First, who organized the conference, is it gospel light ministries? if it is, i do not have any problem because this ministry is widely accepted ministry among ethiopian churches especially in ethiopia with sound doctrine.. This people doing great job in ethiopia as i heard. i do not have any detail information sorry for that.. why the churches in your area did not want to cooperate with the ministry? did not engage by the ministry? if they engaged did they have biblical reason not to participate in the ministry? My Second big question is if gospel light ministry was not the one preparing the conference, who is? with what agenda? i read some say that those people are x-comincated by the church. As we all know it is big authority that is given to the church, and thier sin should be officially disclose; whether it is moral or doctrinal to protect others member of the church. it is not humbleness to me hesitate officially condemn the sin. what sin or what basic reason for these people make them not to work with gospel light ministry. Hope the churches over there, are not blindly oppose the conference. my Third big question did people were come to christ? did the church edified (according to some of the comment i do not think so..) what is the specific out come of the conference? lastly what is the $200 case?
01/17/11 @ 07:39
Comment from: Endalk [Visitor]
For these people, every strong article with a serious tone is written by a man. Their gender philosophy is still feudalistic even if it has been almost half a century since we witnessed the demise of feudalism in Ethiopia. For sexists like these, a woman can't write and even if she somehow learn how to, she can't have a serious tone. For them, women are simple emotional beings that can not put 'a' and 'b' together and write an article on a topic that is appealing to them- only men are sophisticated enough to write an article about a transgression they encountered.
For these people, every criticism is personal. Please don't be discouraged at how these people, whose mind can't hold two ideas at the same time, are in dire lack of understanding the bigger picture that you are trying to show.
For them, everything is black and white. If they see a person, like you, having a critical look at another person, they immediately try to find something personal to link it with. And they do this at any risk. Even if they have to carry on an operation to make the female to male, believe me you, they will do it. Your name is Selamawit Befekadu, right? These people can make you Selamu Befekadachew within a split of a second. Not only that but they will convince themselves that you are Selamu Befekadachew just for the sake of escaping the insecurity syndrome that is running up and down their arteries.
People like these don't care about the fundamental rules of logic and reasoning. It is like they are enemies with rational arguments while being twins with fallacies and identical with reasoning flaws. They don't care but trespass every law on the book just to have their points heard, which they barely have...
A word of advice for you Selamawit: ignore them and continue with what you are doing. Just make sure that you are consistent with the word of God.
A word of advice for yosef, Tsegaye, and their likes: try to grow up and train yourself to have a civilized discourse; to focus on the bigger picture and to grasp the theme of an article. (Some grammar lessons won't hurt too.)
The Ethiopian Christian community, thanks to Ethiocross.com, has gone way past you and it is becoming customary for Christians to debate on issues, openly criticize wrong doings, and at the end try to agree without being disagreeable. :) Unless you reform your basic way of presenting your arguments, you have no room in the many more discussions to come within our community.
God Bless,
Endalk
01/17/11 @ 08:35
Comment from: Boez form Maryland [Visitor]
"Alebabsew Biarsu, Bearem yemelesu" Endaihon, I believe the churches need to seat down with their members and with Pr. Daniel and His ministry leaders to reconcile and resolve the issue at hand. The problem we have is we fear our leaders to the point that they do what ever they want. Practically, the activity/action is not biblical. My prayer is that the leaders to see that Sin still with in us and make an effort to see it and confessed it amongst them selves. Unless our leaders are walking with genuine humility, it will be unthinkable for us to grow to be humble. As you know, God oposses the proud and gives grace to the humble. How about prayerfully consider to challange our leaders to practice Gospel centered leadership and be accessable to their members and awaken to glorify God. The fact of the matter is Either Jesus Comes or we go to Him. What are we going to say on the judgment day? I may not agree with all of you, But God commands me to Love you. Grace to you!
01/18/11 @ 12:23
Comment from: Helen [Visitor]
Yosef, first aren’t you wasting your time by writing non sense sentence or phrase or whatever you call it? Second, do you think God’s people now a day are desperate to have a preacher or teacher to bring to their church (especially Pastor or ‘Hawarya Daniel Mekonnen)? Third, you said ‘grow up’ don’t you think you should grow up first before you criticize others since it seems you are very immature? Forth, why don’t you start praying for yourself instead of ‘wasting’ your time on accusing people?
Don’t get emotional; instead, try to find out what is going on if you have a burden for the House of the Lord. Yes, I agree to pray for the Evangelists, Apostles, and Pastors… who need to humble themselves under God and serve God’s people not for the sake of MONEY.
01/20/11 @ 15:55
Comment from: Sime Tadesse [Visitor]
creating awernase can guide the people of God in the right direction, and you does this. After I read your article I am surprised in such kind of meetings and ways of exploitation which is demand to pay 200 birr or dollar for pastors who held such kind of meetings,From the time of the 10 centuries on wards the chatolic and the eastern churches do the same thing in exploitation belivers in the name of spirtuality.
Selamwit,any how do the best for the kingdom of Christ,respect local churches and pass the sounded comments to the people of God, write a very good article on the burning issues, and discusse with the proper people, in most here in Addis Abeba the same thing happened here and there,I relate this from the second coming of Christ ,probalbly such kind of mischives may relate with the work of antichrist.I recomend you to read my church history book .
01/21/11 @ 05:50
Comment from: Anonymours [Visitor]
Second, You had tried to cast an aspersion on the christian life and morals of the folks who participated in organizing the meeting. You must be self-righteous and haughty enough. Just like the accuser of the brethren. The bible says we are all sinners and the only judge is the Lord. So who are you to judge them? I am sure you have some dead skeletons in your closet too (figuratively speaking).
My advice for you would be to humble yourself, repent and seek God. Otherwise, going after a man of God has its consequences.
Finally, I am a sinner myself washed by the blood but not fully sanctified and struggling daily to kill my flesh.
I would have preferred to rebuke privately but since you are cowardly in not identifying yourself, I am left with no choice.
01/21/11 @ 10:44
Comment from: Bereket [Visitor]
I honestly don’t get your point, are you saying that individuals can organize a conference without involving the local churches? if yes, why?
For me organizing spiritual conference or activities without involving the local churches is ungodly. I believe there is a very strong scriptural back for this.
Do you think the people who organized this conference serve the purpose of the Lord? if so why do we need the body—“ the Church” ….don’t you think that God wants us to function as a body within the church.
I fear that if the leaders of the Ethiopian’s churches failed to address this issue, it may open door for many ungodly activities.
Bereket-From San Francisco
01/23/11 @ 04:19
Comment from: Mosi [Visitor]
01/23/11 @ 08:41
Comment from: Tariku [Visitor]
01/23/11 @ 11:01
Comment from: Geremew [Visitor]
According to scripture, Paul was working with church - pastors and elders at all time in every city he went. He cares too much to even send letter from prison to every city's church telling them how to lead Godly church. So Paul WON"T BE OR NEVER BE a good reason not to work with Church.
01/25/11 @ 10:07
Comment from: Grace [Visitor]
May grace be with us all.
01/25/11 @ 12:45
Comment from: Tamaghe baria [Visitor]
01/28/11 @ 21:44
Comment from: geremew [Visitor]
What are you saying...it is Godly to have conferences,and other spritual gathering by not involving Church.You think not working with local church is God's will.
Please.... That is not what our bible teach us. It is not about who preach, who teach, who sing at the conference. It is about working the work of God as the way God wanted us to work.
02/03/11 @ 15:16
Comment from: endalk [Visitor]
"you have tried to cast an aspersion" you said? What a (I am sorry but I have to use this phrase) balloon-head! Is that one of the two things you grasped out of these article? Have you even read the article very well, my friend?
Did you just indirectly say that Selamawit is the devil? Endea- beka enante sewoch tiqmachihu ena kibrachihu sineka yematihedubet ye'zelefa chaf yelem? Minew minew newur ayidelem endea? Yihen yahil min askeyemechih? As far as I was concerned the article was very modest and respectful. It doesn't deserve this kind of rebuking?
Selamawit mentioned only a few lines about the conference organizers. And she mentioned those line to show that she doesn't intend to talk about the organizers. She sure didn't mention anything about sinfulness. But you seem to make it like a big deal and rebuke her like that was her main point.
As a reader, I didn't get the sense that the organizers were sinners and involved in immoral activities by reading her the three lines she wrote at the end about the organizers. However, after I read your comments, you made me think that way. I wonder why we had two different takes on the same paragraph. Are you assuming things or is there something you know about the organizers? Please enlighten me.
02/04/11 @ 02:50
Comment from: Boez form Maryland [Visitor]
02/04/11 @ 14:31
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02/23/11 @ 13:04
Comment from: Haile Eyesus [Visitor]
02/25/11 @ 16:14
Comment from: Selamawit Befekadu [Visitor]
Thank you for your comments and suggestions. I have tried to read each and every one of the comments very closely and carefully. God bless you all who encouraged me because you share the concerns that I raised.
Also, God bless those of you who insulted and cursed me just because you don't agree with me. :) I know you mean well. I won’t doubt your motives. The finger pointing and personalization was a bit funny and quite hurtful :) but I don't blame you. Discussing ideas and ideas only is alien to our culture. I will continue to pray and hope that you as an individual and some Ethiopian Christians (particularly the Diaspora) as a community would grow out of personifying conversations and pointing fingers. Observing the depth and content of some of the comments though, I'm afraid this growth won't happen anytime soon- but hey, I don't lose anything by hoping and praying. Just remember that I love you in Christ and respect your ideas regardless of what you think about me or my article.
Having said these, there were some concerns raised related with the local Churches. As one of the commenter indicated, I don't want to serve as a spokesperson for the Churches in the area. Neither am I a pastor with a personal problem with Pastor Daniel as some suggested. In fact, none of the pastors and leaders in the area including the pastors and leaders in the Church that I go to knew about the letter until after it was published. So, please leave the area pastors and Churches alone.
I have forwarded the article to all the Churches and pastors in the area after it was posted on www.ethiocross.com though. Along with the article, I wrote an email urging them to unite and take some bold remedial actions to stop all the madness. Some have promised me that they will cooperate and work together to try to once and for all deal with the issue.
Since I still didn’t get any response from the ministry, from Pastor Daniel, or from the organizers, I have decided to expand on my article and its destination. I am working on Part II of the article to be posted on ethiocross.com and to be dispatched to magazines and newspapers in Ethiopia.
Part II is going to focus on the details and contents of the program, the organizers, the reaction of the area Churches (if I find it necessary and if they are willing, I will try to interview some of the pastors in Oakland and San Jose), and my recommendation as to what should be done to put a stop to ‘wof zerash’ programs like the one held in Oakland by Pastor Daniel.
It might not be pleasant to some and hence, my apologies in advance. If you have any recommendation, suggestion and information that you think will help me in compiling and dispatching the second part of my article, please send it to me at the following email address: selambefekadu@gmail.com.
God Bless you all,
~Selam
02/26/11 @ 07:47
Comment from: nama waaqa [Visitor]
Even thou I am not in America, I could say Selamawit is right in revealing what is going on in the world. It is true that the so called "Ministry men (bale ministriwoch)" do not care of the relationship and authority of the church. It this is What Derge Kebede sung as the consequence of religious freedom. Though we do not like him because he reveals our weaknesses and touches our pierces, the reality is there. It is good to know that even the apostles of the New Testament (Paul, Peter) were doing their mission under the authority of the church.
No matter whether Selamawit is male or female, as some argue for the gender of the writer, the matter is where are we going? and whom are we following?
May God help us
nama waaqa
02/26/11 @ 08:17
Comment from: Mekelu Geta [Visitor]
Our gyude for any chrstian activity should be the scripture not human tradition or worldly stlyes.
Yes Pastor Daniel was among the first whom God used for the healing ministry back home in Ethiopia.God uses instruments some for glor some for disgrace but the bottom line is God messages communicated all the time.
The worst problem for church and chsrstianity comes from with in not from out side.Those churches confesss Jesus can not come together and the contemporary proseprity orinted preaching and money collection Pastor Daniel involved is alien from the bible.
When Pastor Daniel bagan Gospel Light,I was there and he introduced it at Addis Hiliton that it would be church support independent ministry but later it becomes another church attracting or stealing members from other evangelical churches.Even in DC where Pastor Hanfre was Pastor Daniel's good ally in the begining now never invited him or sponsor his program while Pastor Mulugeta coming from NewYork sponsored it.
Remeber the celeberation of SIMET for Pastor Daniel where many confused when his partners explained him like Meketsedek,the priest order only given to Jesus Christ.Most of the famous Ethiopian preachers in North America are on the side of cross less preaching while our Lord and the apostles lived a descent life.Was Jesus staying at 5 five star hotels? Was Paul living in the upperclass Rome city quarters?NO!
It is time to repent and live and preach Chrstianity of the bible that is chrsianity of the cross.The fun loving,the comfort loving generation is alien to the biblical sacrfical chrstian journey that most Ethiopian belivers in the early century lived.
02/27/11 @ 06:53
Comment from: Enyadini [Visitor]
02/28/11 @ 22:31
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03/06/11 @ 21:05
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03/06/11 @ 21:05
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03/11/11 @ 23:22
Comment from: Paulos [Visitor]
Thank you for expressing your concerns without fear of reprisal and name calling.As you aptly put it, the focus should be on the idea and not the individual who stated the idea. I care less if Selamawit is a man or a woman.All I care is about the merit of the ideas, thoughts, concerns etc. expressed by the writer.
Selam,don't be intimated keep expressing yourself.
Paulos
03/25/11 @ 09:36
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